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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by ann268 » 21 Nov 2013, 09:35

Maybe you're right Andrew, didn't get my "copy"either!
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I'm a bit busy, but will contact you soon!
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Post by andrew fischer » 21 Nov 2013, 10:31

Hi Ann and Veherny,

I have sent you both a mail, please check and let me know.
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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by tobi777 » 24 Nov 2013, 13:01

Hi Andrew,

this is REAlly good news! I just sent you a mail.

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Post by andrew fischer » 25 Nov 2013, 15:10

Dear Tobias,

I have sent you the mail, please check and let me know.

Thank you.

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by Zel » 28 Nov 2013, 13:34

On Ebay, 8 years ago I saw Official LP 12" Chris Rea "Live on BBC" 1985.
It has green style picture with Chris.

It was to much expensive to me - 500$.
But I don't remember track list, sorry.

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Post by andrew fischer » 28 Nov 2013, 14:21

Hi Zel,

maybe this is the one?.. But it is from 1980 and it is rather well-known, though once very expenisive as well, I saw the original LP being traded at USD 318...

http://eil.com/products/Chris+Rea/In+Co ... 30556.html

Chris Rea - BBC radio broadcast disc 1980 aka CHRIS REA/THE TOURISTS In Concert
London's Paris Theatre

1 intro
2 letter from amsterdam
3 doin' the things that lovers should do
4 good news
5 dancing girls
6 everytime i see you smile
7 sweet kiss

There were also some older (ca.1981-1982) recordngs once stored by BBC2 at their website, Goodbye Little Columbus (now missing) and Guitar Street, recently officially released on a complilation, I have a copy and I can share it.

I never came across any mentioning of BBC tapes or broadcasts dated 1985... There were 1988-1990 ones, one from 1998 and one from 2004 and one from the recent years, they all ended up on bootlegs...

But 1985... I will try to guess and find it...

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Post by Zel » 28 Nov 2013, 14:37

I'm sure it was 1985 and it has Shamrock Diaries track list.

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Post by andrew fischer » 28 Nov 2013, 14:53

Okay,

if you try this download from BBC official website
http://www.bbcradioint.com/ContentFiles ... alogue.pdf
you can see 4 Chris Rea Broadcast discs:
1980 IC 0233.2 - well-known disc I mentioned above
1986(!) IC 0387 - I think this is what are talking about
1993(?!) IC 0567 - never heard of it
1998 IC0748 - seems to be similar to 1998-01-28 Live at Shepherds Bush Empire

Chris Rea “In Concert” UK 9-track BBC Radio show CD.
Nothing To Fear (6:41)
Stainsby Girls (4:48)
On The Beach (7:17)
Shadows Of The Big Man (5:27)
Anyone Quite Like You (7:19)
Miss Your Kiss (4:36)
Square Peg, Round Hole (4:14)
The Road To Hell (Part 2) (7:07)
The Blue Café (4:01)

Does anyone know anything about the last there records mentioned?

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Post by andrew fischer » 28 Nov 2013, 15:08

1998 BBC broadcast disc seems to be NOT the same as 1998-01-28 Shepherds Bush Empire bootleg.

Take a look: http://members2.jcom.home.ne.jp/0440581501/bbce.html#20

1998/1/29-30 at Shepherd Bush Empire

On air 1998/ 8/20

*Nothing to Fear
*Stayin' with Girls
*On The Beach
*Shadows of The Big Man
*Anyone Quite Like You
*Miss Your Kiss
*Square Peg Round Hole
*Road to Hell PartII
*The Blue Cafe

Thus, it seems to truly lack Thinking of You which appears on 1998-01-28 Shepherds Bush Empire bootleg and Miss Your Kiss goes before Anyone Quite Like You on that record.

This bradcast disc was once traded for USD 112.

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by poolie » 28 Nov 2013, 23:48

Andrew
I suspect the 1993 broadcast is the one that came out as the bootleg God's Great Realist which was recorded in Aberdeen in 1993 and I'm pretty sure broadcast by the BBC.
The Shepherds Bush bootleg might be my only venture into recording a Chris show and I kept to the set list though as you point out the BBC broadcast did not only leave some tracks out but also altered the running order of some.
Westwood One also recorded tracks from Chris' 1988 and 1990 Wembley Arena shows and broadcast them in one show on the BBC
I also have a live BBC recording of Chris which says is from 1983 though I can't confirm it is true which has 7 tracks starting with Nothing's Happening and closing with Love to Love.
Hope this helps though I suspect it might just add to the confusion !!

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Post by andrew fischer » 29 Nov 2013, 09:04

Dear Poolie,

thanks a lot for your very useful clarification.

I also suspected 1993 BBC disc to be used for Aberdeen boots, but was not sure.
I wonder if this disc contains Set Me Free, which does not appear on any version of bootleg of that gig.
Here is some useful info on it: http://www.echoeshub.com/recordings/fil ... 20info.txt

Now I see Shepherds Bush Empire 1998 boot came from BBC disc with altered setlist in comparison to the radio broadcast to keep to the original setlist. Thank you.

I know about Westwood One records from 1988 and 1990 for American radio, they were two 5-song parts of an 1-hour show. It is said these records were made at Wembley, but I am not sure of it.

There is more confusion with Wembley records.
There are 2 records noted as Wembley'89 records while it seems there were no CR gigs at Wembley in 1989.
One record named Live in London Wembley Arena has 6 songs, I think, from January 1990 and the other one is It's All Gone live album of 5 songs, noted as Wembley Arena London 1989 pre-FM Westwood One broadcast disc - I think it is recirded in December 1988 and aired in 1989, but maybe you know better.

Cannot your record noted as BBC 1983 be in fact a Musikladen record less I Can Yuor Heartbeat? Silly thought, but anyway...

What about BBC 1986 disc, I suspect it to be used for 1986-05-02 Hammersmith Odeon bootleg and B-sides for Hello Friend double gate 7''. But again no any proof.

Thanks again for making things clearer,

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by poolie » 29 Nov 2013, 16:51

Hi Andrew
As I suspected more questions than answers in trying to solve the riddle?

Certainly Set Me Free is not included as a track on Aberdeen Realist or Working On It Paris bootlegs though I do have it included on a bootleg from Saarbrucken in Germany where it is a final encoure number following Let's Dance.
Just to clarify the Shepherds Bush bootleg. I recorded the full concert and it was "weeded" on a Chris site but not sure how far it got and that was the concert in true set list order. Maybe at some time the tracks that the BBC did not air might have been combined with their output to give a better reproduction ( even I concede that the BBC can record concerts better than me !!! )

Other than that I can't really shed any more light on the other recordings that you mention save to agree with your incination on the 1986 live output.

Best wishes as ever

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by andrew fischer » 30 Nov 2013, 10:44

poolie wrote:Hi Andrew
As I suspected more questions than answers in trying to solve the riddle?
Hi Pooplie, to be honest, you puzzled me more than clarified the things, but thank you anyway!
This is one amazing riddle to be solved!
poolie wrote:Certainly Set Me Free is not included as a track on Aberdeen Realist or Working On It Paris bootlegs
Was Set Me Free recorded then in Aberdeen, I wonder? As I saw from the link given above, there are some parallel soundboard or audience recordings, which were used for Aberdeen weeds, along with BBC tapes, but they do not include Set Me Free either.

<update> (I have checked and found out Working on It Album is fully recorded in Paris on Apr, 3, not Aberdeen)

By the way, which Aberdeen recording issue do you consider best? 'Scotland 1993 live album' has a lound and rather clear sound, but there are some audience and tape noises. 'Josepihne live album' has lower sound but lower noise as well, thanks to Dolby NR, I think. "God's Great Realist live ablum' - never heard it.
poolie wrote: though I do have it included on a bootleg from Saarbrucken in Germany where it is a final encoure number following Let's Dance.
I have no Saarbrücken audince video, but I have full gig audience recording from Birmingham 1993-01-21, which includes Set Me Free and an early live version of Nothing to Fear with all verses, however, the sound is rather poor, regrettably...
poolie wrote:Just to clarify the Shepherds Bush bootleg. I recorded the full concert and it was "weeded" on a Chris site but not sure how far it got and that was the concert in true set list order. Maybe at some time the tracks that the BBC did not air might have been combined with their output to give a better reproduction ( even I concede that the BBC can record concerts better than me !!! )
Thank you so much for your recording of that gig! I have 2 version of this gig, one is 50 min. non-tracked tuner record of BBC broadcast with spoken intro between On the Beach and Shadows of the Big Man, and the other is 10-track weed without spoken intro and it includes Thinking of You. As far as I see, BBC disc is a compilation of recordings from 2 shows, Jan, 29 & 30, so no surprise they changed the order of the songs from the original setlist.

<update> I have found out your post on this issue here:
http://www.chrisrea.nl/community/viewto ... isc#p10564
poolie wrote:Other than that I can't really shed any more light on the other recordings that you mention save to agree with your incination on the 1986 live output.
One more time you prove that your collection and enthusiasm for CR records is absolutely incredible!
I have already heard from you about at least 5 gig records that I do not have (oh how I wish I did!) and hardly ever heard of.

I will try learn more on BBC tapes and if I find I would post here.

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by andrew fischer » 03 Dec 2013, 09:42

poolie wrote:Andrew

I also have a live BBC recording of Chris which says is from 1983 though I can't confirm it is true which has 7 tracks starting with Nothing's Happening and closing with Love to Love.
Hope this helps though I suspect it might just add to the confusion !!

Poolie
Hi Poolie,

I think this is the 1983 recording you mention:

Chris Rea
1983 Spring Tour
unknown date
soundboard

1 nothing's happening by the sea
2 don't look back
3 midnight blue
4 let it loose
5 love's strange ways
6 i can hear your heartbeat
7 from love to love

Not a single word about BBC, neither of exact venue and date...
But surely it is not similar to Beat Club / Musikladen Bremen video.

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Re: CR Official Live Recordings

Post by andrew fischer » 22 Jan 2014, 15:41

Hi Poolie and everyone,

I have just listedned to the recording named Chris Rea BBC In Concert 1983 and I think this is what poolie was talking about and with the tracklist as mentioned above. It has a good sound recording quality (must be a copy from a master tape or broadcast disc), but the band did not play everything quite well, Chris missed his turn to sing in several places, there were problems with the microphone and the speakers, etc. So that I assume BBC did record this but it never came further, i.e. was not on air and thus is not listed in the BBC tapes archive.

Chris introduces Let It Loose as his latest single (released on the 11th of February 1983), and Heartbeats (released on the 13th of May 1983) as the forthcoming single so it must be May 1983.

Any thoughts and comments on this?..

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